PCA misleading advice

  VoG II 22:52 16 Jul 2005

Page 184, Sept, Issue 122:

'In July, I recomended the auto HijackThis log analysis tool at click here [it's also on the cover disc], and also asked for feedback on how succesful it was at removing spyware. Martin Symonds writes: "I had just read your tip when a friend phoned complaining that his PC had been taken over by malware or spyware and was playing up. Within 10 minutes of the woeful machine arriving, I had run and analysed the logfile. Five minutes later, it was up and running again, with all spyware removed". This isn't the only sucess story i've heard, so this robot analyser seems like a good find.'

I think that this advice is completely incorrect and potentially dangerous. Care to comment PCA?

  tasslehoff burrfoot 23:13 16 Jul 2005

But that reads to me (and I don't have that issue yet to read the whole thing) that somebody recommended something and asked for feedback.

They received positive feedback.

They reported this feedback.

And it is feedback, not advice, so how can it be incorrect?

As I say, I haven't read the full article so may be missing something, I apologise if I have.


  VoG II 23:18 16 Jul 2005

This so-called tool would have me remove half of my device drivers and goodness knows what else. Try it but for heaven's sake do not delete anything.

  [email protected]@ 23:21 16 Jul 2005

Sorry VoG,I don't understand what you are getting at,can you be more explicit for a more dimmwitted member.

  [email protected]@ 23:22 16 Jul 2005

Now I understand.:o)

  Taff36 23:34 16 Jul 2005

I agree with you VoG. Having had two friends PC`s and cleaned up as much as possible with adaware, spybot etc I had to resort to HiJack this. The log file it generated meant nothing to me and I posted it at the malware forum recommended by many on this forum. The resultant advice cleaned both computers fully. No way could a novice know what to delete safely.

I`d love to see Nelly 2`s comments on this post. Can anyone PM her?

  tasslehoff burrfoot 23:47 16 Jul 2005

I understand the reluctance to use the "tool" mentioned. I understand the risks involved in deleting the "wrong stuff" on a HJT log. But I don't see how feedback (which we have to take at face value) can be incorrect or dangerous.

Yes, I agree the tool in question is potentially dangerous, but somebody else's "good news story" can't be "completely incorrect and potentially dangerous" can it? I mean, if my PC had the same, exact malware problems I would surely have the same great experience with this tool.

BTW, I think we may have touched on this before and Nellie2's response was (to paraphrase) "each to their own but I wouldn't touch it". She has a track record of which I am aware (by reputation only admittedly) and I will follow her example before that of Martin Symonds (sorry Martin).


PS We're moving house, everythings been either packed or chucked out by my wife so I can't even say I own July's edition let alone get it out and read the original recommendation.

  Pooke 23:49 16 Jul 2005

I don't see it as missleading, just plain wrong.

  tasslehoff burrfoot 00:01 17 Jul 2005

it's feedback. It has been reported that it actually happened.

It's not misleading - it happened. It's not potentially dangerous - there's no "it worked for me so everybody should use it"


Please refer to my feeble "haven't read it" disclaimers in previous posts :)

  CurlyWhirly 10:00 17 Jul 2005

Each to his/her own but I personally wouldn't use it because I ran it a few weeks ago and it highlighted a legitimate entry and labelled it as a 'nasty' though I can't remember what it was now I later found out that if I had 'fixed' the highlighted entry it *may* have messed up my internet connection as it was to do with my ISP settings.

I would prefer to get a spyware specialist like Nellie2 to browse through my HJT log at a dedicated anti-spyware forum like click here

  GANDALF <|:-)> 10:02 17 Jul 2005

Spyware can be as easy or as difficult as you wish to make it. Removal does not require a genius and an hour or so reading about spyware coupled with some knowledge of computers will suffice. I use a 'robot' analyser (MS Antispy) and coupled with a bit of common sense, have never needed to use HJT on the many computers that I have had to sort out.

There is a lot of preciousness and perceived mystery that some sections of the net like to cloud spyware in and they try to make it into an arcane art that only the gilded few can interpret. This is not the case and rocket science it ain't.

The advice is quite reasonable unless you are ultra paranoid or think that spyware should ONLY be tackled by the brave, Arthurian few who seem to regard it as the new Lord of the Rings adventure.


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