Stuartli, very strange. When I opened Nero StartSmart (before my posting above) On the Nero ProductCentre it said, "Installed Version - 126.96.36.199. Latest available version 188.8.131.52. Last check xx/07/05" Can't remember the actual day as it now says "Last check 15/08/05". Maybe that was because I didn't update from within Nero as I went direct to the Nero website and updated from there.