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  VoG II 23:34 24 Sep 2003

I've only recently bothered to acquire my allotted webspace from Blueyonder. So far all I have done with it is to upload image files using CuteFTP. In other words "A COMPLETE NOVICE". There are several words that you could use to replace "novice" without losing the essential meaning.

I am toying with the idea of creating a site - nothing fancy, just a main page and a link to another page with some Excel stuff and maybe one more on curry, fine wines or something similar.

I have a rather ancient version of Frontpage on a CD.

If I can find the time to do this, I have a few queries:

Is Frontpage OK - nothing fancy is required.

How do I (in detail) upload my website to BY - I've read and re-read their website and it is as clear as mud.

How do I change the site name from the one BY gives me to something like "VOG.CO.UK"?

Please bear in mind that as far as this topic is concerned I am totally thick, non-artistic and it took me the best part of a day to figure out what an FTP program was (once figured, microseconds to upload stuff).

I am aware of the need for crisp and uncluttered space etc. (I watch House Doctor!).

Thanks in advance for any help.

Windows XP, 512 MB RAM, 2MB/s cable BB.

  Forum Editor 00:57 25 Sep 2003

to welcome you to the WebDesign forum. I think it would be an excellent idea for us to have a site that deals with 'some Excel stuff' as you put it, so that we can direct other forum users to it for advice and help.

You'll find the whole process a little puzzling at first - everyone does - but if I'm any judge, you'll soon be in there with your sleeves rolled up.

FrontPage is an excellent application to use, BUT......there were some dire versions. If you have a trul ancient version it will frustrate you, and might blunt your enthusiasm. Try to get hold of a more recent version - FP 2000 onwards - if you possibly can, or a recent version of NetObjects Fusion.

As to your other queries:

With FrontPage you would normally upload your files to your BlueYonder webspace by using FP's 'publish' command. This will transfer all the necessary site files to the server from within FrontPage, and this is by far the best method for a FrontPage site. FrontPage has special interactive components, such as animated text effects, forms, and built in forums that need special compnents to be installed on the web server that hosts the site. These components are called FrontPage extensions, and they are available free from Microsoft. They need to be installed by the hosting company before your site can use the special FP components, and although most ISPs are now doing this as a matter of course, some aren't (or are charging a fee for it). Blue Yonder already have the extensions on their servers, so no worries there.

If you want to have your own domain name (vog.co.uk) you'll need to purchase it. This is not expensive, but once you have the name you will need to host it with another company - one that specialises in domain hosting. The hosting is not that expensive either, although costs vary slightly from company to company. The hosting company will provide your domain name with its own server space - in exactly the same way as Blue Yonder - and then you can put your site there, on your own name. Incidentally, vog.co.uk has already been taken, as has vog.com, by someone else, but you could have vog.uk.com if you wanted it.

That's enough for starters I think. If you need more help don't hesitate to ask - email me if you like - you can count on me for as much help/advice as you need, and I'm sure the same goes for the other regular WebDesign people.

By the way - take a look on Amazon.co.uk for a second-hand copy of FrontPage 2000. The site's offline at the moment, but I'm sure it will be back up soon.

  tbh72 01:44 25 Sep 2003

Ahum, you didn't see my Excel solution online by any chance did you!!!! The internet is a very clever / simple way to get ideas across to people. I will be more than happy to help you with your website should you run into any problems or require your thought's or plans transposed to HTML.

One step at a time though, as FE say's BY is capable of handling a website of your nature, when you are happy with your site then look towards domain names & hosting!!!!

Good Luck, we're with you all the way


  VoG II 08:23 25 Sep 2003

Thank you very much Forum Editor and tbh72 - that is really helpful.

I think (as suggested) I need to get an up to date copy of FP. Then I'll be back, no doubt!

  tbh72 13:41 25 Sep 2003

Vog, did you know that FP2000 is on some versions of Office Professional. You may already have a suitable version & not realise?

  VoG II 22:41 25 Sep 2003

Thanks but I have the Standard edition which doesn't include Frontpage.

I have actually found Frontpage 2002 at ½ price at click here and it is on order.

Give it a week and I'll be back with "stupid" questions.

  powerless 23:00 25 Sep 2003

oooo I've got that!

  Ben Avery 16:16 29 Sep 2003

As you've been so helpful in the past, if you want a free domain name www. vog.tk you can pick them up from click here

Explanation of why it's free is on the site. Has one popup and as far as I'm aware thats all.

If you want a dedicate don ewithout the popup however, you can buy one as suggested by FE.


  VoG II 21:57 29 Sep 2003

Thanks. But I'm going to have to "master" FrontPage first. Ye Gods! Check back in a year!

  Rtus 23:38 29 Sep 2003

Fp Is the easy bit. its hitting the right keys & the computin bit that tricky..especially if your bakin at the time.....LOL. seriously you'll enjoy creating with FP..Honest..

  wsces 18:50 11 Oct 2003

To get some excel 'stuff' on the web, I'm pretty sure you can save any spreadsheet as a html document on the 'Save As' dialoge box. Then just FTP it to BY.

While I'm here I'll recommend 1&1 (click here) for domains.

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