Hibernation question

  SB23 19:08 30 May 2007
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My father in law purchased a laptop a few months ago. Last week I was able to stay with my in law's as I was looking at property near to where they live.
While I was there I was able to put a few freebies on, and show him how to use them. When we had finished the first night, the method by which he turned his laptop off left me speechless.
He promptly put it into hibernation, then pulled the power cord out, I explained that there was a another way, but he insisted on that way.
The question is, will he be doing damage turning off this way?
I have a desktop, but thought I should ask, just before he does do damage.

Thanks

Steve

  Stuartli 19:26 30 May 2007

Many people use Hibernation to shut down a laptop - however the mains power plug would be best left in situ until the machine has fully Hibernated.

But I suspect that there would be no problems as the battery power would take over.

  Jackcoms 19:32 30 May 2007

There is only one way to turn off a PC/laptop without causing damage and that's to use the 'Turn Off Computer' function.

Your father-in-law's method, apart from being pointless and nonsensical, could cause damage if used over a period of time.

He needs some re-training.

  Stuartli 19:42 30 May 2007

>>Your father-in-law's method, apart from being pointless and nonsensical, could cause damage if used over a period of time.>>

I don't think that's the case - as I stated, many laptop owners close down their machine this way (but don't pull out the power cord too early if this is, as I read it, being done).

My best mate's laptop was set up by one of my offspring, an IT specialist consultant, and this is the method normally used to shut it down.

However, I did suggest to him that he should close it down properly i.e. using the Shut Down button occasionally.

Hibernation mode Saves all the current settings, programs etc and reopens again at that point when a laptop or Desktop is re-booted.

  bert52a 19:47 30 May 2007

As far as I know there's no problem at all using hibernation.That's why it's there.
I think it's best as Stuartli says to leave it plugged in until it has gone into hibernation but you can set the pc to automatically hibernate if you're working on battery power and it's getting low so I really can't see any problem.Of course it means the pc starts up quickly exactlty where you left off although you should backup files before doing this.

  Jackcoms 19:48 30 May 2007

"I did suggest to him that he should close it down properly i.e. using the Shut Down button"

I rest my case

  SB23 19:51 30 May 2007

You raised a question that I had thought of, the battery would take over then? If that is the case, wouldn't it be unlikely to cause corruption of the OS? That was my main concern.

  Jackcoms 19:53 30 May 2007

"there's no problem at all using hibernation.That's why it's there".

Hibernation is there as a power-saving device - that is, you can leave the PC on, wander off to bed and, if enabled, hibernation will power off the PC, thus saving energy.

To hibernate (I wasn't aware you could do it instantly) and then pull the mains plug is NOT how hibernation was designed to be used.

  SB23 20:03 30 May 2007

He quite literally put it into hibernation, then unplugged its power cord, but if the battery does take over, then it wouldn't be a problem.

Personally I would power off by using the shut down button, as I do with my desktop.

  Stuartli 21:30 30 May 2007

>>"I did suggest to him that he should close it down properly i.e. using the Shut Down button">>

You are being somewhat devious by leaving out the word "occasionally"....:-)

I rest my case on that point.

I regularly use Hibernate during the day if I leave my system for longer than usual.

It's nothing to do with leaving it and it powering down into Hibernation after a given time - you elect to close it down in Hibernation form so that you can resume where you left off.

Unlike Standby, as I stated earlier, putting a system into Hibernation means that all the open programs, applications, configuration etc are Saved and resume exactly where you were on re-booting.

In Standby mode, if you have a power cut or other problem, you will lose any unsaved work.

You can also leave a machine in Hibernation so that it will resume for a particular reason, such as to record a television programme or programmes if you have a TV card or USB TV stick.

  SB23 19:02 31 May 2007

As it would appear that no serious damage will be caused by this method of turning off his laptop, especially if the battery takes over, I will close this now.
I still think he would be better to use the shut down button, but hey, you try and tell my father in law, lol.

Thanks to all


Steve

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