first router install

  spook08 12:47 18 May 2008
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hi, does anybody know if when i install my first router-(Netgear DG834G 54 Mbps Wireless ADSL Firewall Router) as just ordered a laptop, if i install the router on the p.c or laptop or both?

And also after install am i able to move the router elswhere i.e away from p.c or does it have to be connected to the p.c at all times?

The other thing that confuses me is when i connect to the internet at the moment i go to internet explorer and then have the dial-up window appear to connect me to tiscali broadband, but from what i understand of wi-fi i would need to connect via LAN so i am not quite sure if that would be the same way to connect via internet explorer or is it some other way? Thanks ahead for any relevant info and help on this

Further info: P.C running windows XP sp2 with tiscali broadband and sagem modem currently being used for internet access / laptop will be running windows vista with wi-fi buit-in

  bremner 12:51 18 May 2008

The router will come with full install instructions but basically you will need to connect it by wire to a computer to get it set up. After that you can wirelessly connect to any device and can if you want remove the wired connection.

  normskinner 12:57 18 May 2008

' does anybody know if when i install my first router-(Netgear DG834G 54 Mbps Wireless ADSL Firewall Router) as just ordered a laptop, if i install the router on the p.c or laptop or both?'

Either will do. Use the lan cable that should come with the router.

'And also after install am i able to move the router elswhere i.e away from p.c or does it have to be connected to the p.c at all times?'

If the PC and laptop are wireless thats fine. The router just needs a power socket and a BT phone socket.

'The other thing that confuses me is when i connect to the internet at the moment i go to internet explorer and then have the dial-up window appear to connect me to tiscali broadband, but from what i understand of wi-fi i would need to connect via LAN so i am not quite sure if that would be the same way to connect via internet explorer or is it some other way?'



No. When you have setup the router and if both machines are wireless you do not have to have a physical connection to the router. You just click on your browser, IE or firefox and the internet will load. It is the router that is permanently connected to the internet, you are just tapping into that always on service when you load an internet page.

When the router settings are configured, the router remembers them even if you turn off the power or move the router to a different location.

  spook08 12:57 18 May 2008

yes, perhaps it all sounds a bit daunting until you actualy go through it, it's a pity those mobile broadband dongles have monthly charges as they sound more straightforward!

  spook08 13:00 18 May 2008

should have the laptop delivered this week and then will set about install of router/modem hopefully won't need to come back for further help.....but you never know!

  Quiller. 13:33 18 May 2008

and if you have any problems, you can use the desktop and the old modem to pop back here for help.;-)

  ambra4 15:53 18 May 2008

How to Set Up a Broadband ADSL2/2+ Modem/Router/Wireless

It is strongly recommended by All router suppliers that you use a physically connected
ethernet cable to set-up the Router

Using a wireless connected computer for set up is Not recommended to access router setup at any time.

If your present Computer does not have a Lan card you will have to install one

Remove Telephone from wall jack if install

Plug-in the 2-way filter that came with Modem/Router

Connect Telephone Cable that came in the box to the ASDL/DSL Socket on Filter and to the ASDL socket on the Router

If you had a Telephone connected to the wall jack before, plug the phone into the socket on the filter mark Phone

If you have any Phone extensions, Fax Machine, Answering Machine, etc, an ADSL filter must be installed on each wall jack

Connect a second RJ45 Ethernet cable from Port 1 on the Router to the LAN socket on your Computer
Regardless of how many computers you are trying to network together, start with just one
A bad network card, driver, cable, virus, or Spyware on just one PC can jeopardize the integrity of an entire network.
So turn off all but the main PC connected to the router
Once you get the PC connected to the router working properly, then turn on one more and get it working.
The key is to start with just one PC, then add the remainder one by one.
Power up the hard wire computer only and check the following: -

If any firewalls are installed on any of the PCs, uninstall them.

This includes Zone Alarm, Sygate, Kerio, Norton Internet Security, Zero Knowledge Freedom, Cisco VPN Client, F-Secure, McAfee Firewall, Trend Micro, Comodo, PC Tools Firewall Plus etc.

In many cases, disabling the firewall is not enough; you have to actually uninstall it.

Do not install or re-install the firewall until after you have the network functioning properly.

  ambra4 15:54 18 May 2008

Web Browser Settings

Internet Explorer 4.0 or Higher

Start IE web browser. Select-Tools-Internet Options-Connection Tab

In the “Connection” screen, there are three selections:

“Never dial a connection”,

“Dial whenever a network connection is not present”

“Always dial my default connection”.

If you can make a selection, select “Never dial a connection”.

If you cannot make a selection, select “LAN Settings”

Untick marks next to any of the displayed Options:

“Automatically detect settings”,

“Use automatic configuration script”

“Use a proxy server”.

Click “OK”. Then click “OK” again in the “Internet Options” page.

Network Adapter Setup on all Computers

Also called a LAN card (Local Area Network) or NIC card (Network Interface Connection)

Click-Start-Settings-Network Connection

Double-click on the “Network Connection”

Left-click on the “Local Area Connection” associated with your network adapter

Select “Properties” from the drop-down menu.

In the “Local Area Connection Properties” window all boxes should be ticked

If there is an Internet Protocol IPv6 (TCP/IP) on the Vista computer disable it by remove the tick

At bottom of display tick the box “Show Icon in Notification Area When Connected

A display Icon will appear in the task bar when you have finish the setup

Click-Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) Click the “Properties” button

Select “Obtain an IP address automatically

Select “Obtain DNS server address automatically”

Click- Advanced-Click-WINS Tab-Tick-Enable LMHOSTS Lookup if untick

Do Not Change Any Other Setting

Click “OK”.

Your computer network card is now configured for use with the Modem/Router

Other Lan Card Setting

Right click on Local Area Connection Display Icon on task bar

Click Status-General-Properties

At the top of display the type of Lan card will be displayed

Click Configure-Click-Advanced Tab

Click- Flow Control-Change to Enabled if Disabled

Click-Power Management Tab

Untick if selected "Allow Computer to turn this device off to save power

Network Connection Setting

Click-Start- Setting-Network Connection-New Connection Wizard

Select-Connect to the Internet-Next

Select-Set Up My Connection Manually-Next

Select-Connect using a broadband connection that is always on

Next-Finish

  ambra4 15:55 18 May 2008

Router Setup

Power On The Router And Wait 1-2 Min’s until it synch with your broadband ISP

There is no need to install the set up wizard on the CD if it came with one

Start your browser and enter the router access code, check the manual for the correct code

and user name and password

This will open the configuration pages in the router and wireless networking

Click on the Quick Start / Wizard set up and enter the following information when

requested

Connection Type = PPPoA

VPI = 0

VCI = 38

Encapsulation = VCMUX.

User Name & Password that you presently use to access your ISP service

No need to worry about the Wireless system just yet

Once the router set-up is completed and you have SAVE the setting log out and close browser

Reboot the Router by power it off and back on and wait 1-2 Min’s

You should see 5 green lights showing on Modem/Router

The 2 displays Icon should be in the task bar-Right Click-Status-Support

What you should see is the following:

Address Type: Assigned by DHCP

IP Address 192.186.1.XXX which is the Computer IP Address

Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway 192.168.X.X which is the router IP Address

If you click the Detail button you will see a lot more information the WINS Server is always blank

You should now be able to browse the Internet

If you have any blank spaces (Gateway, IP address etc) you need to recheck the Router Setup and Lan Card setting

All router have a reset button at the back of the router, which will reset the router back to the factory default setting if required

It is sometimes desirable to reboot the router by Power it off and back on by removing the power cable if you cannot access the Internet or find that access is very slow this will allow the router to refresh the setting from your ISP servers

  ambra4 15:56 18 May 2008

Setting Up The Wireless System in the Router

Access the router and click the Wireless section in the router setting

If you not going to use the wireless Disable it

Make sure that the wireless is Enable

You now have to set-up the Wireless Network Name the SSID address on the router first

By default some wireless router come set-up with the manufacture name as the SSID address 3Com, Linksys, Belkin etc,

You should change the SSID address to a name you want to give your Wireless Network, 452john06 / ezyclip01 etc which would allow you to easily identify your network

You should also change the Wireless Channel # the default is normally Channel 11 which most persons uses so change it to 6 / 8 this will save you having interferences and low signal quality from other network close by using channel 11

Write it down; or save on a flash drive using notepad as the same SSID name Channel # and Security Code must be used on All wireless device when setting then up to access your wireless system

You do not have to set-up the security system as yet

Save the setting and log out of router, make sure that you can access the router vie the wireless device and browse the Internet first, if you get it wrong the router will not allow the wireless device to connect to the wireless system or allow access to the Internet

  ambra4 15:56 18 May 2008

Laptop Wireless Device Setting

Most laptop computer these days comes with a building wireless card; some required you to switch on the Wireless Radio Antenna via a small slide switch on the laptop

Or using the FN (Function) key you have to hold down the FN key and press the key with a small antenna icon to turn on the wireless card

You and also check that the wireless card is Enable/Disable from inside the Network Connection Area

Start-Setting-Network Connection-Right click-Wireless Area Connection-Enable or Disable as required

Some times you have to Disable and Enable before the card will connect to the wireless system

If not sure if laptop have a antenna switch check the manual PC layout quick guide

Check out these site before you set-up the wireless system could save you a lot of time and headache.

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Setting Up The Wireless Security System

Check out these sites before you set-up the Wireless Security System

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Question said by first time user of ADSL Wireless Broadband

The PC hard wire to the router does not have to be on for the wireless system to work

Once the router is on all wireless devices should have local and Internet access

With a hard wire system the LAN card connect speed at 100Mbps, the wireless system connect speed at 1Mbps -54Mbps depending on the distance, amount and thickness of walls, quality of signal etc

You cannot see the wireless system from a hard wire PC only the Local Area Network Connection

Using a wireless connected computer for setup is Not recommended to access router setup at any time.

You should not have both the LAN and Wireless on the same PC connect at the same time.

As this can causes conflict within the Computer

The normal connect speed on a laptop build in wireless card or USB adapter is 54Mbps on older laptops with build in wireless cards the connect speed is 11Mbps

Using a build in normal b/g wireless card or adapter to connect to a 108Mbps, 125Mbps, 300Mbps, wireless router will only connect at 54Mbps

You must purchase a separate108Mbps, 125Mbps, 300Mbps, USB adapter or PCI card for each wireless device you want to connect at that speed.

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