I don't know about fair, but he may be right. I had an Esla MX440(?) card on a previous system and the card was a product of a German company (Elsa AG) and there was no mention any where in the documentation of a Far Eastern connection. I can only remember this because it is only a few weeks since (on the instructions of her indoors) I cleared out a load of old paperwork, and I remarked that it was a shame that the West cannot compete with the Far East on price and maybe (?) quality.