AGP Graphics card

  Marko797 17:13 18 Apr 2008

Hi, I'm thinking of taking the plunge and buying one of these 'Sapphire Technology RADEON HD 3850 512MB AGP DUAL DVI DDR3 VGA TVO' to upgrade from my ageing X800 Platinum Edition.

Anyone got one, or able to offer thoughts on whether it's a good move?

I've seen it on Dabs at c. £120 so grateful if anyone knows of same item but cheaper, or even maybe a better AGP card. Got about £150ish to spend.

Thanks in advance.

  GaT7 21:00 18 Apr 2008

That's a very good choice*, but what's the rest of your system like - in particular the CPU?

If it's not an Intel dual-core E4500/similar or better, the HD3850 could be bottle-necked by the CPU (i.e. won't perform at its true potential). If this is the case, then you may be better off going for a X1950XT/7950GT/similar depending on your CPU. eBay search for X1950XT & 7950GT click here - I wouldn't pay more than £60-70 delivered.

Also, at least 2Gb RAM highly recommended.

Cheapest AGP HD3850 I could find is £116.50 delivered from Aria click here. G

*A comparison between the HD3850 & couple of older gen cards click here. For a more comprehensive list click here.

  Marko797 21:32 18 Apr 2008

Yes, I'm slightly concerned wrt processor. AMD 3400+, and an ageing system generally. PSU is a 500w so no real issues there, plus I have 2gb RAM, so again no real probs. My other choice a while ago was 1950XT (or 1950 Pro maybe) but then this new card has arrived so had a re-think. Hmm things are never straight fwd...

  Gamer555 21:37 18 Apr 2008

Personally, I wouldn't spend too much on an AGP card as they are old technology now. I would spend about £50-60 to get perhaps a X1950, use it as a stopgap, and put the rest of the money towards a new PCI-E system.

AGP cards are underpowered now for todays latest games and you won't be able to play games such as Crysis, at a half decent setting, on an AGP card.

If it was my money, I would put the money towards a new PCI-E system.

Just my 2c worth!

P.S I don't think theres much difference between the X1950 and the 3850 apart from the 3850 supports DX10 graphics. But if you don't have Vista this won't affect you anyway!

  Marko797 21:37 18 Apr 2008

£99.99 for the 3850 512 agp at Misco by the way.

  Marko797 21:44 18 Apr 2008

I'm using XP & happy to do so at the moment. My current grafs runs Crysis fine (unbelievably), but naturally won't run games requiring shader 3.0 (MOA Airborne/Bioshock, for example).

Understand AGP is old technology, but the fact that ATI are still producing convinces me that there's still life in the 'old dog' yet, & maybe a complete renewal of system might not be necessary just yet.Thnx for the comments however...fair points.

  GaT7 21:46 18 Apr 2008

As you have a single-core CPU (& probably WinXP - i.e. DX9 only), your best bet is a good secondhand X1950Pro or above card.

Start saving up the pennies for your next PC with a high-end PCI-E card. G

  Gamer555 22:01 18 Apr 2008

Definately save some money and get a cheap x1950 then if your using XP. You should notice a HUGE difference from your X800!

Yeh, ATI are still producing the ol' AGP cards, its about the only good thing the company ARE producing! Their PCI-E cards aren't much kop ATM, IMO! lol

Good luck.

  GaT7 22:11 18 Apr 2008

Agree with Gamer555...

eBay search for an AGP X1950 Pro click here. I'd pay no more than £60 for a 512Mb & no more that £50 for a 256Mb version respectively. G

  Marko797 22:20 18 Apr 2008

some valid points, so thnx for the input. However, think I'll pass on the suggested (e-bay) source, but that's another subject matter altogether. Thnx guys.

  GaT7 22:35 18 Apr 2008

Just out of interest, did you have that X800XT PE from new? When newly available to buy, they used to be a whopping £350-400!

I managed to get one from eBay last March for £60 delivered - they were selling for £10-15 more on eBay at the time. G

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